In this context, the bearing of fruit is generalized. While He was with them they leant upon Him and could not apprehend a time of weakness and of persecution. When the persecution comes they will remember His word, and find in it support for their faith and evidence of His presence with them. John 16:4, NASB: 'But these things I have spoken to you, so that when their hour comes, youmay remember that I told you of them. But these things have I told you Journey Bible Study for 111110 Into Thy Word Ministries Bible Study www.intothyword.org General Idea: Do not fall away; I, Jesus Christ, am here for you! these things, as here and at this time: his reason for such a He made it the matter of one great division of His last discourses, placing it, by a fundamental and, as it were, systematic treatment, in an altogether new light. When he says, that you may remember, he enjoins them, first, to lay up in their minds what they have heard; secondly, to remember them, when they shall be required to put them in practice; and, lastly, he declares that no small importance attaches to the fact, that he utters predictions of future events. California - Do Not Sell My Personal Information. The fact of the silence has been disputed: but no definite and full intimations have hitherto been given of the future experience of the Apostles, as representing an absent Lord. And in the middle of it all, he graciously reminds us that to be his means to bear fruit and we bear fruit by abiding in him. These things which the infant Church would have to meet, and meet without His bodily presence, He told them not at the beginning. were appointed by God, and foretold by their Lord and master. might hope, believe, and expect, that all the good things he had its only other occurrence, John 6:64) while indicates continuity. For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. particular in enumerating the evils his apostles were to endure And these things I told you not from the beginning, because I was with you. (See especially John 16:17; John 16:21; John 16:28.) If there is a difference, indicates rather the point of time (cf. John 16:3; John 16:1, and John 15:21) refers to the full account He has given them of the world’s hatred and the principles lying at the foot of it, and the manner in which it was to be met by the Spirit’s witness and their witness of Him. 1-5. 1 John 4:16, NLT: 'We know how much God loves us, and we have put our trust in his love. since the evil things which he spoke of came upon them, so they Greek. Their Master had not from the beginning spoken it in so affecting a manner, because He was yet with them, and Himself defended them, ch. "Their hour" (NASB) refers to the time when the disciples" persecutors would control their fate. Verse 1. Article Images Copyright © 2021 Getty Images unless otherwise indicated. It was his last revelation to them previous to that departure which should produce the coming of that Spirit. He had not said it at. Copyright © 2021, Bible Study Tools. Ut cum venerit hora eorum, reminiscamini quia Ego dixi vobis, Greek: otan elthe e ora, mnemoneuete auton, &c. where the construction is not hora eorum, but reminiscamini eorum, &c. the time. And these things I told you not from the beginning, because I was with you. when he first called them to be followers of him; for though when When He shall have left them they will represent Him, and must stand in the foreground of the battle. cities of Judea, which was some time after he had called them by (4) But these things have I told you . 4.These things have I told you—Again does the Lord cast back a recapitulating glance in order fully to impress his words upon their memory for future use, both for confirmation of faith and consolation of heart. = of John 15:27, Holtzmann. The passages are not, however, really inconsistent, for “these things” in this verse (comp. . 2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God. (Comp. That he had predicted persecutions heretofore, again and again, is beyond all question. Чтобы вы, когда придет то время. John 17:12, executing the office of their advocate in their conflict with the world, ch. 1 John 4:16, NASB: 'We have come to know and have believed the love which God has for us. his grace, he did acquaint them with some of the troubles and 1, not simply to that which the disciples had to suffer from the world, but also to those consolatory suggestions which Christ had opened to them in regard to their sufferings. Greek. Biblical Commentary (Bible study) John 15:26-27; 16:4-15 . The texts read "their hour": i.e. These words seem to belong to John 16:4, and to contain a reason why Christ spoke of the trials and afflictions of his disciples now, because he was going away from them to his Father; when as they would be at the head of his affairs in this world, so they would the more become the butt of the rage of men: THE PARACLETE. God is love, and the one who remains in love remains in God, and God remains in him.' We'll send you an email with steps on how to reset your password. (John 16:4-6) It is doubtful the disciple fully understood what the Lord was telling them, but He explains that later when the persecution came they would remember. And I told you not these things at the beginning. To get what John 16:4 means based on its source text, scroll down or follow these links for the original scriptural meaning , biblical context and relative popularity. He strengthens them by forewarning them. Why? What, then, is it that our Lord had not, namely, that under a persecution of a spiritual character their support was to be the, This entire shape and substance of things were entirely, . and indeed, whilst he was with them, the rage and malice of the These things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.—While with them, He would spare them, and it was against Himself that the hatred of His foes was directed. John 16:4. Proverbs 16:4 The Lord hath made all [things] for himself This is true of the Lord with respect to the creation of all things by him. Read commentary on this popular Bible verse and understand the real meaning behind God's Word using John Gill's Exposition of the Bible. be their comforter. John 15:16. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.' This chapter concludes the discourse leading up to the great intercessory prayer. Is it true that those who did it to them thought that they were offering "God service" (John 16:2)? These words seem to be opposed to Matthew 10 and parallel passages, where our Lord did tell the Apostles at the time of their call of the persecutions which awaited them. But He emphasises to them that when they do they are to remember His words. Jews were not so much against his disciples, as himself; nor did He knows that he will soon be lifeless on a tree — the crucified King. But these things have I told you Christ enlarged on this disagreeable subject, and was the more particular in enumerating the evils his apostles were to … tauta lelaleka hymin) brackets this subsection of the discourse and highlights a reason for it (cf. John 14:16. Ironically their hour would appear to be the time of their greatest victory, but really it would be the time of their greatest defeat. You did not need to know these things before, so I did not tell you of them. A similar correction is needed in John 16:4 for ‘have I told:’ it is the same Greek word in all three cases, and means ‘to speak,’ not ‘to say’ or ‘to tell.’ sorrow hath filled] So that there is no room for thoughts of My glory and your future consolation. JOHN 16:4. exercises they should meet with; as that they should be hated by conduct was this. This repeats John 16:1, but He now adds an explanation of His silence up to this time regarding their future: ’ . “While I was with you, you could run to me, and tell me all about your trials and difficulties. He had said it pretty early (Luke 6:22), but not so nakedly as in John 16:2. John 16:4. That solemn lesson was connected only with the present moment, when their training was completed, and they were to be sent forth to be as He had been. This remembrance would really strengthen their faith in Jesus rather than weakening it. Ver. also John 13:19; John 14:29.) he for the same reason speak so largely of the Comforter, and of delivered up to councils, and brought before kings and governors; If men would not receive Christ, we should not be surprised if they will not hear us. Read commentary on this popular Bible verse and understand the real meaning behind God's Word using John Gill's Exposition of the Bible. "But these things have I told you, that, when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. depend on his veracity and faithfulness in his promises; that Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. But these things have I spoken unto you, that, when their hour is come, ye may remember them, that I told you. John 16:4. Had Jesus, then, not told them these things in the earliest period of His ministry? The disciples shall so remember that they shall have a fresh insight into the mystery of the Cross. John Gill's Exposition of the Whole Bible. But these things have I spoken unto you, that, when their hour is come, ye may remember them, that I told you. EXEGESIS: JOHN 14-17. see ( Matthew But that they would have to take His place, and, in doing so, to find that His trials were their trials, He had never said. What else does Jesus say will happen to them in John 16:2? What does John 16:22 mean? It is often urged that passages such as Matthew 5:10; Matthew 9:15; Matthew 10:16, show us that He had, and that it is impossible to reconcile these with the words before us. General allusions to their coming sufferings there might be and were. (Read full chapter The ἀλλά in the preceding verse stated why they would do these things; here it states why the Lord spoke of it. ex arches. Asking in Christ's name, is acknowledging our unworthiness to receive any favours from God, and shows full dependence upon Christ as the Lord our Righteousness. the omniscient God, and the true Messiah, and encourage them to The phrase "These things I have spoken to you" (Gr. John 16:1-33.DISCOURSE AT THE SUPPER TABLE CONCLUDED. 4. It involves the deeper insight given by experience and the teaching of the Spirit into the meaning and purpose of trial in the economy of grace. App-104. However, just as Nicodemus had failed to see the spiritual meaning of being “born again” (John 3:3-4), the woman fails to see the spiritual significance of the “living water” … John 4:16. Salem Media Group. If anybody was hard with you, I could come to your help, and comfort you. Proud member And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you. Please enter your email address associated with your Salem All-Pass account, then click Continue. John 11:8, “The disciples say, Master, the Jews of late sought to stone Thee:” and yet they are ordered now more to reflect on this very fact: John 15:20, Remember, etc., ch. See note on John 6:64. with. This entire shape and substance of things were entirely new. His ‘going away’ is an essential part of ‘these things,’ and with it all that He now says is so connected that it has its meaning only in the light of that departure. Не говорил же сего сначала. 16 “All this I have told you so that you will not fall away. and Arabic render it; that is, the time when wicked men will be Λέγει , He saith ) Now He makes an avenue for giving to the woman, who begs for water, a better kind of it, than that which she had begged for.— ἄνδρα , husband ) The woman seems to have supposed, that the reason why she is desired to call her husband is, in order that he may help her in taking up and carrying home the water, John 4:15 , promised [by Jesus], John 4:14 . “ But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. In John 15, Jesus describes himself as the true vine and his Father as the vinedresser. 4 But these things I have told you, that when the time comes, you may remember that I told you of them. Jesus had not revealed the extent of opposition His disciples would face earlier because He was with them and He was the focus of unbelieving hostility. Verse 1. I have said] Better, I have spoken as in John 16:1. It is not merely that He now speaks, or that they now understand, with greater clearness than before. As the apostles were still weak and tender, so long as Christ conversed with them in the flesh, their singularly good and indulgent Master spared them, and did not suffer them to be urged beyond what they were able to bear. Nay more, they shall learn to feel themselves peculiarly identified with their Lord. A crucial aspect of that encouragement is the fact that pain and suffering are temporary, as compared to the blessings offered by life in Christ (John 10:10; 14:6). And they will indeed need to remember His warnings, for often they will be baffled at the failure of men to see and understand, at the hardness of heart that prevents men responding, and at the fierceness of the wrath that is directed against them. These things I did not say to you at the beginning, because I was with you. In what immediately preceded, the prophecy of their future suffering had been lightened by a prospect of joy. he ordained them, and sent them forth to preach the Gospel in the As there was an ‘hour’ in which His enemies were permitted to rage against Him, an hour which was theirs (Luke 23:53), so there is an hour again given them when they shall rage against the preachers of the truth (comp. I was with you: the time of the things of verses: John 16:2, John 16:3. at the beginning = from the beginning. He could not then have so spoken ‘from the beginning,’ for the simple reason that He was not then going away. —Again does the Lord cast back a recapitulating glance in order fully to impress his words upon their memory for future use, both for confirmation of faith and consolation of heart. Beginning in John 13, Jesus gives a series of farewell addresses that continue until chapter 17. some copies read it, "their time"; so the Vulgate Latin, Syriac, the comforts they should receive from him, because as they had I was with you; it was not then needful for them to know the trials that were coming upon them; but as he was to depart, it became needful that by looking to the Holy Spirit they might be prepared to meet them. The next sentence may give some light on the fact that until now the disciples were not being targeted by the Jewish leaders. Following on from this initial interaction, Jesus begins talking about living water. The reason of His silence was , “because I was with you”. He had not said it at the beginning; for he had reserved it until now, the close. all men, persecuted from city to city, beat in the synagogues, But these things have I told you, that, when the time [ hoora (G5610), or 'the hour'] shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them - and so be confirmed in your faith and strengthened in courage. Yet we have only to put ourselves into the position of our Lord and His disciples in order to see that there is no contradiction. This is a reminder to us that we too must not expect the Christian life to be easy and rosy. It has the whole world in view (John 16:1-11) with its relation to the Holy Spirit, emphasis upon the Spirit's relation to the apostles (John 16:12-15), and final remarks before the great prayer (John 16:25-33).These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be caused to stumble. Said not’ at the beginning—Commentators of different ages have found it difficult to reconcile this apparent statement of our Lord, that he had not predicted persecutions heretofore, with passages like Matthew 5:10-12; Matthew 10:21-28; Matthew 16:24-25; Matthew 24:9; Luke 6:22, etc. Is that what really happened to them? And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.". John 14:25; John 16:25; John 16:33; John 17:1).Jesus did not want His disciples to stumble (Gr. .—He recurs to the thought of John 16:1. 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As the verses leading up to John 16:12-15 indicate, a fundamental difference between the current experience of the disciples at the Last Supper with Jesus and their future experience with the Spirit is that the future context is marked by Jesus’s departure from the world (16:4-11; see also 16:28). [⇑ See verse text ⇑] As Christ explains the misery and persecution His followers can expect from the world (John 16:1–3), He also offers comfort. of That Jesus, indeed, had earlier, and in a variety of ways, spoken to them on the same subject, is not only evident from the testimony of the first Evangelists, but is also obvious of itself, since His three years' intercourse with the disciples must have furnished Him many opportunities for such discourse, and, according to the fundamental views of the Old Testament, especially the Psalms and the prophecies of Jeremiah, the way of the disciples through a world of sin could not be other than full of thorns. CHAPTER 16. Our Lord had certainly before spoken to His disciples of their coming persecutions, Matthew 5:10; Matthew 10:17; but it had been to them as if He had not so spoken,) the blessed present having prevented their thoughts from lingering upon His words. Christ enlarged on this disagreeable subject, and was the more John 16:1-15 The Work of the Holy Spirit! And those things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you. The announcement never exerted a penetrating influence upon them until now, when Jesus, Himself on His way to death and deeply moved, addressed it to His deeply moved disciples; and when, without admixture of other elements. John 16:2). What does Exodus 16:4 mean? But now, when His departure was at hand. They did know it: ch. These things I said not, &c.— The original signifies, 'I did not inculcate these things upon you from the beginning;—I did not insist upon them, because the lesson would come time enough before my departure.' His word might take the place of His personal presence. That he had predicted persecutions heretofore, again and again, is beyond all question. for his name's sake: that when the time shall come; They shall put you out of the synagogue--( John 9:22, 12:42). But now I go my way to him that sent me,....These words seem to belong to John 16:4, and to contain a reason why Christ spoke of the trials and afflictions of his disciples now, because he was going away from them to his Father; when as they would be at the head of his affairs in this world, so they would the more become the butt of the rage of men: Conversely Jesus" "hour," His passion, would appear to be the time of this greatest defeat, but really it would be the time of His greatest victory. The Greek word translated “tribulation” literally means “pressure, intense pressure;” in John 16:21 the same word is used to describe a woman’s birth pains during the time of delivery. suffered to vent all their rage and malice: ye may remember that I told you of them; ащищать их. It is revealed to us in the condition of these disciples. meta. John 16:4 But I have told you these things so that when their hour comes, you will remember that I told you about them. It was his last revelation to them previous to that departure which should produce the coming of that Spirit. ’ . KING JAMES VERSION (KJV) TRANSLATION, MEANING, CONTEXT. ταῦτα refers, as in ver. Jesus spoke these things so that the disciples would be kept from stumbling or falling away (ESV) when they encountered the opposition of the world (John 16:1). John 16:4. He must tell them more definitely, in order that, when the persecution should arrive. John 16:4, KJV: 'But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. WORDS OF JESUS IN RED. (Read John 16:23-27) Asking of the Father shows a sense of spiritual wants, and a desire of spiritual blessings, with conviction that they are to be had from God only. Note how Jesus recognises the doubts and fears that at some times in the futures will cloud their lives. The Lord Jesus was to face the most challenging event in the history of the universe, for He Who had rested in the bosom of the Father and communed with Him throughout eternity, was to experience the most excruciating separation from His God and Father – an agonizing disconnection, which is beyond the comprehension of frail mortal man. See Matthew 9:15. JOHN 16:3-4 3 “And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me. which might serve greatly to confirm them in the faith of him as Jesus Prays to Be Glorified - After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the hour has come. But these things I have spoken to you, so that when their hour comes, you may remember that I told you of them. to bear their sufferings with the greater patience, since they He repeats what he had already said, that this is not a philosophy fitted only for a season of leisure, but that it is adapted to practice and use, and that he now discourses on these matters, that they may actually demonstrate that they have not been taught in vain. 2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God() 3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me() 4 I have told you this, so that when their time comes you will remember that I warned you about them The true vine was a way to contrast Jesus with Old Testament Israel… We answer: all these things; namely, that under a persecution of a spiritual character their support was to be the Spirit of truth. What, then, is it that our Lord had not said at the beginning? assured them of, should be accomplished; and also to engage them not the exercises they should afterwards have, so they had him to The analogy of such passages as chaps. “But these things have I spoken to you so that when their hour is come you may remember them, how that I told you.”. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. (John 16:4b-7 RSV) This passage opens with a manifestation of the need of the Spirit of God. At that time, therefore, they had no great need of confirmation, while they enjoyed leisure and freedom from persecution; but now he tells them that they must change their mode of life, and as a new condition awaits them, he likewise exhorts them to prepare for a conflict. The Greek word means to be caught in a trap and has the nuance here of being taken by surprise (John [IVP/Eerdmans], R. V. G. Tasker, p. 181). The instructions of our Lord are meant for our learning and growth as well as for spiritual nourishment, comfort, and hope. —Commentators of different ages have found it difficult to reconcile this apparent statement of our Lord, that he had not predicted persecutions heretofore, with passages like, , etc. And they will begin to question themselves, and God. wherefore he never spoke so fully and distinctly of their 10:17-19 ) ; yet he did not so fully and distinctly speak of I said not unto you at the beginning; troubles, because he was with them, and took them upon himself; To report dead links, typos, or html errors or suggestions about making these resources more useful use the convenient, Baker Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology, Hastings' Dictionary of the New Testament, The Hawker's Poor Man's Concordance And Dictionary, These things I said not unto you at the beginning, But these things have I spoken unto you, that when their hour is come, ye may remember them, how that I told you, And these things I said not unto you from the beginning, because I was with you. 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